A nice refutation of the TAG (Transcendental Argument for the existence of God)
Today (Nov 28, 2008) I came across this video by youtube user TheoreticalBullshit refuting the arguments of presuppositionalists who subscribe to the TAG, the transcendental argument for the existence of god, and it struck me as being quite good.
If you have never come across TAG proponents before, their argument can be quite exasperating, and seemingly obviously stupid, and having what must be some obvious weak point, while at the same time you might find it a bit difficult to put your finger precisely on that weak point and to effectively articulate the counter arguments which it seems must obviously exist in the face of the ridiculousness that is presuppositionalism. TheoreticalBullshit does, it seems to me, a pretty good job of dismantling the presuppositionalist arguments. Howeer, I have enough experience debating with presuppositionalists to know that the vast majority of them won’t agree with my assessment of the effectiveness of TheoreticalBullshit’s arguments.
The video shows one possible line of attack against the TAG, and one which might be more effective than the more obvious attacks, since it takes the premises of the TAG and runs with them. The more obvious attacks focus on rejecting the premises of the TAG outright, an approach which proponents of the TAG are nearly guaranteed to laugh at, (even though to TAG opponents, the premises of the TAG may seem completely absurd.)
However, the hard-core presuppositionalist is likely to let out the famous
battleidiot-surrender-cry, “until you can account for the possibility of knowledge without recourse to the Bible, you’re not permitted to make any argument at all.”